NOTE: This was first posted Aug 24, 2020 www.onlinefellowship.us
It’s Just a few samples of what is lurking beneath the Tip of the Discernment Type Iceberg. And I shall continue VIDEO Wed
FALSE OR TRUE?? STARTING POINTS… TO BEGIN TO NOTICE SIGNS…WITHIN ALL TYPES OF RELATIONSHIPS
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- HOW DO THEY (the pastor, apostle, prophet,etc , the collective faith filled amidst the abiding FELLOWSHIP) VALUE, REGARD AND EORR TRULY RESPECT all of the “RELATIONSHIPS” and is there a “Respecter of (only a few) persons SPIRIT or even a DEVALUING, DEMEANING OF (SOME OF) THEM?
- .Do they ministry display a NEED TO BE IN CONTROL? If they use people to watch the others and report back and/or accuse any without any upfront Bible confrontation. Do they monitor, keep Levitical law tabs on all other church goers, area non church goers, and fellow area people.
- Are all people pressured to “submit” and “be under” ONE top leader office..meaning that they are controlled and not allowed to hear from God themselves, be allowed to go where ever they feel Holy Spirit lead them. (Control may be a cult spirit)
- Leaders, elders refuse to be held directly accountable ….yet they are ALWAYS right and “must be submitted to.”
- There is ongoing recurrent LEADER UNJUST ACCUSATION…yet never any Matthew 18:1-517/humble Galatians 6:1 “one to one POLITE RESPECTFUL relationship valuing mature CONFRONTATION… (denotes DEVALUING of RELATIONSHIPS over PERSONAL EGO )
- “PERVERTED OR IMMORAL OR ANTI NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE TRAINING” (using God’s Scriptures to apply undue pressure to conform,to “respect” to be “under THEIR kind of AUTHORITY”…and they may use Bible verses to produce guilt, to instill fear,to shame…and to manipulate or coerce persons in order to gain/to make higher ACHIEVEMENTS and or to take in MONEY
- EORR (“Equal Opportunity REAL Respect”) Is all about assessing RELATIONSHIPS …. meaning the team leaders only PREFER or RESPECT or ALLOW IN MINISTRY certain COLORS, STYLES, MALES NOT FEMALES,.. or vice versa. Some may even suppress and withstand, by race, gender, age, appearance ..as they are “back under the Old Testament Levitical Law and this is a sign of mainly immaturity but might reveal spirit of ignorance and accusative, mean BIGOTRY.
- THEY ARE ANTI EORR RELATIONSHIPS….examples BIGOTRY, BIAS “big RESPECTER OF(ONLY PREFERRED TYPES OF) PERSONS ” SPIRIT
- USE OF CORPORAL PUNISHMENT on Staff, Lay, ANY ONE. Meaning..that before leaving DFW, I had an African American ministry friend tell me how in another state, she witnessed a sr pastor line up his staff of 8 and slap each one across the face!
- CAUSTIC ALL WISE (Lost First Love) OFFICE MINISTRY …like the I Samuel, Revelation 2:2-8) ) area high priestly top office…they slept with the women who came to the temple, applied over much pressure on God’s people to give offerings and then the associate ministers commandeered what the people brought and took if for themselves:(The Bible declares it was THEIR immature, lust filled disrespect for God’s OFFERINGS which made “The Lord’s OFFERINGS DESPISED among the people (Like it is TODAY) …Plus: Top Elite Office Eli the Levitical Patriarch Accuser of Lone Leader unknown Women(ex: Hannah: the future mother of First National Prophet Samuel); It was because of this, that God sent an unknown, unnamed prophet to give the word of the Lord to Patriarch ELI “ICHABOD” “The Glory of the Lord has departed from Israel” (NOTE: the RELATIONSHIPS mentioned; between sr office, office associate ministers,with fellowship attenders,with females, with collected offerings…and each type of RELATIONSHIP was repeatedly DISRESPECTED, and devalued and demeaned and NOT DEEMED WORTHY OF BEING VALUED)
- The Elvis Presley Done DEPARTED Devout Famous Fan Club: Try attending any Lost First Love Lampstand compassion fatigued do good works, major hustling, church (mainly a religious System) and while you note that they’re trying REAL HARD to give glory to the Lord, the atmosphere is shallow, attempting but not at all Holy Spirit deep in pure worship. So in this person’s perspective, it’s as if Holy Spirit is like ELVIS PRESLEY..”HE’S LEFT THE BUILDING”
(Oh, I found too many of THESE in the territory I have only recently (also) LEFT)
KEY POINT: HOW DO THEY
RESPECT,VALUE AND/OR
DISRESPECT “ALL
RELATIONSHIPS” **
**(Means from the Leader TOP to the STAFF to the ministry mid level lay leaders, ministry abiding faith filled fruit
OR do they prefer taking COLLECTIONS, PERSONA, SERVITUDE, and/or BEING OVER A LOT OF HUMAN PERSONS , major HIERARCHY, POSSESSIONS, TV SHOW BIZ, BIG I’S LITTLE YOU’S to “Every day REAL God seeking PEOPLE?”
NEED TO NOTE: THAT DUE TO THE LENGTH OF ALL OF THIS..I only have space to mention the FIRST SIGNS of false TEACHING, however I am not saying that this automatically brands anyone a FALSE OR TRUE PROPHET,APOSTLE, TEACHER.
YET, YOU want to remain fully aware, and if/when /as the Holy Spirit directs YOU…then it will be between YOU and HIM about HOW MUCH, WHO “HE” is telling YOU to accept, intercede as for, and/or TOLERATE. (For trickle down RUDE, DEMEANING, NASTY AND ERRANT UNTRUE DOCTRINAL Produced FRUIT… may strongly affect PRIMARY, CLOSE and PRICeLESS Private RELATIONSHIPS which come with BIG RESPONSIBILITIES …main examples Marriage, spouses, teens, children, etc)
YET the SLIDE from TRUE to false “DOCTRINE” which could slide even further into creating a FALSE TEACHER, PROPHET, APOSTLE usually does begin in DECEPTION…and (non contrite) errant leader doctrine…ACCUSATION and RELATIONSHIP misuse and FALSE TEACHING. Therefore the trusting Bible Believing Christian must know their own Bible as well as how to ALL RELATIONSHIP Fruit Inspect.
BYOB (Bring YOUR OWN Bible) and please choose to be a NOBLE BEREAN..as if YOUR and YOUR CHILDRENS,the FUTURE OF THE AUTHENTIC CHRISTIAN CHURCH’S Life depends upon it!
And maybe if, when the pure hearted Christ followers stop giving, attending the “CARNAL RELIGIOUS” ministry, fellowships…and rather regularly, humbly intercede…perhaps it will make them WAKE UP and GET IT RIGHT..or will make them GO UNDER.
THEREFORE it is up to each PERSON to prayerfully guage and ongoing ASSESS and then also PAY ATTENTION to the witness of God’s Holy Spirit…
MY OWN DISCERNMENT KEY: HUMAN REGARD AND RELATIONSHIP VALUE
TO ASSESS AND DISCERN: HOW A PASTOR, LEADER, MINISTRY, FELLOWSHIP, GROUP …REGARD…as their ongoing TOP PRIORITY VALUE and genuinely RESPECT versus OBJECTIFY, HAVE PREJUDICE, WITHSTAND CERTAIN TYPES and USE, POSSESS…as in ,fail to humbly honor, place in value and respect ALL HUMAN REAL PERSONS which are SENT BY GOD TO USE in ongoing, many types of abiding RELATIONSHIPS. (meaning coming in all races, genders, looks, social strata, ministry sizes.)
THE DIFFERENT SUBTLE”CHARACTER, RELATIONSHIP FRUIT” LEVELS OF GOING FROM “BIBLE AUTHENTIC AND GENUINE RIGHTEOUS TRUE” ..DESCENDING DOWN FROM “EMOTIONALLY WELL, BIBLE BALANCED, AND GENUINELY RIGHTEOUS”
**THEY NEED TO USE CONTROLLING LEGALISM
**Which also repeatedly breeds CRITICAL LEVITICAL LAW fellowship RELATIONSHIP DEVALUING disrespectful ministry ACCUSATION, back biting, tale bearing, Christian lay, leader minding others business and using tight control.
A SERVANT LEADER POINT: It places more value, makes the priority more about keeping the RULES, fulfilling all the REQUIREMENTS over “respecting, valuing, ALL kinds of real PEOPLE.”
DISCERNMENT AND ASSESSMENT MAIN POINT: If there is OT LAW in an otherwise Good New Testament Church, be warned.. that (as a assessment tip)”CRITICAL RHYMES WITH LEVITICAL”
(ABRASIVE TO RELATIONSHIPS)…SELF /EGO/CARNAL NOT CHRIST, HOLY SPIRIT.. 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5 FRIENDLY FIRE “FROM SUCH TURN AWAY” FELLOWSHIPS
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
THE OTHER FROM SUCH TURN AWAY (TEMPORAL, FLEETING PERSPECTIVE) FELLOWSHIP ” $$$ =’s SIGN OF GOD’S BLESSING”…the ANTI JAMES 3:17 EGO DRIVEN CARNAL FELLOWSHIP
1 TIMOTHY 6:3-6 “IF YOU’RE NOT WEALTHY, THEN YOU’RE NOT BLESSED” “From SUCH WITHDRAW” CHRISTIAN GROUP
3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
That’s all for now, just a few Submitted Selahs.
A LOT MORE TO COME…Mighty BLESSINGS!
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