NOTE: This was first posted www.onlinefellowship.us July 17, 2019
ROMANS 8:5 “For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.”
MATTHEW 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!”
YET..we each need to define all of this..
REALITY SHOW BIG HOT TOPIC
ASSESSING “YE MUST BE BORN” AGAIN FORNICATION
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SPECIFICALLY TEACHING ..FROM A “RELATIONSHIP RESPECTING, ALL LOVING. NOT “PHARISEE ACCUSER SIN SPYING NAME CALLING …“FORNICATION.
HOWEVER.…AS WE BROACH THIS SUPREMELY HOT TOPIC..WE WILL NOT USE TRADITIONAL “WELP” PHARISEE MINISTRY APPROACH
PRIMER POINTS
(The word coming from the One Living Lord confirmed in the mouth of 2 or more witnesses??)
LUKE 14:27 “WHOEVER does not bear his/her own cross and come after me, cannot be My disciple.”
LUKE 9:23 “And He said to all, “If anyone would come after me, let him/her deny himself/herself and take up his/her cross daily and follow Me.
MATTHEW 10:38 “And whoever does not take up his/her cross and follow me, is not worthy of me.”
MATTHEW 16:24 “Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, he/she must deny him/herself and take up his/her cross and follow me.
MARK 8:34 “And calling the crowd to him, with his disciples, He said to them, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny him/her self and take up his/her cross and follow me”
FIRST PRINCIPLES…PRIOR TO THE HOT TOPIC
1. GENESIS 1-2 God formed First Human Adam (prior to Law, as no need for it). He first wanted a relationship with His First born human son. And set Adam up in a back and forth communication. Later God wanted Adam to have company so He formed Eve..out of Adam’s DNA and thus Eve, She, was not in any ways Second Class, Less Than or to be USED, Nor did Eve want to USE Adam. Until sin came into the dear Eden 100% pure garden, ALL RELATIONSHIPS were fully respected, minus any using, tainting or accusation.
THE POINT: Father God set up RELATIONSHIPS as His Top Priority, NOT religious rules and requirements, as His only Gen 1-2 REQUIREMENTS were “NEVER EAT from that ONE Garden TREE.” With the WHY Being “God didn’t want blind followers, children as puppets. But He wanted them to prefer their RELATIONSHIP with HIM above them SELVES. And so it remains today.
- PRINCIPLE: Any said human real person who “signs on” to follow Jesus Christ, is expected to “take up their cross and follow Him” which translates into the Believer…making his, her will to choose to “put God and His relationship with THEM above all PLEASING OF THEMSELF and/or ANY TYPE OF OTHER.
- Any committed TRUE DISCIPLE will please HIM not SELF not OTHER HUMAN BEINGS.
And they will put more VALUE on GOD’S FRIENDSHIP than being FRIENDS with any local, family, friends, aquaintainces. - THEIR (FIRST VALUING, RESPECTING GOD OVER SELF) can be regarded as the person reverencing, remaining in humble awe regarding and specifically aiming to please, to follow the WILL OF THE LORD as noted and described in Holy Bible Scriptures. APART From the OT Levitical legalism and /or accuser finger pointing LAW.
- THE ACCEPTING CHRIST FOLLOWER chooses to value the ‘FIRST LOVE LIFESTYLE” and always acknowledges HIM as their Source of ESTEEM, The Ultimate Source of Eternal, Life FULFILLMENT.
- A hallmark of the FULLY RESPECTING, VALUING OF the Private RELATIONSHIP with GOD implies, that The PERSON makes the choice to sacrifice what THEY want. But instead , due to Valuing The Most High GOD…they will attempt to try to CHOOSE to please HIM and do whatever HE says HE desires.(which He communicates via the BIble and in the RELATIONSHIP daily via Holy Spirit inner witness. Good Bible teaching, prayer.
- BOTTOM LINE: True Born Again Believer in Christ First pleases GOD not SELF
- IF the Truly Born Over Again Believer in Christ has many temptations, and may commit , fall into sin… then all they need to do it go back to GOD and ask His forgiveness and then begin AGAIN.
- IF they have an addiction, then they need to seek wise healing counsel. BUT choose this selectively as to fully avoid Legalistic ministry Phariseeism
2. GEN 1-2 BEFORE TEN COMMANDMENTS, OT LAW (as NO NEED FOR IT…YET) for ALL RELATIONSHIPS WERE VALUED.. However once dark human sin entered the Garden, Accusation, abusing, Using, Taking advantage of and cunning “Playing, mind, emotion manipulation” then (Gen 4 Cain) murder. And it’s been going way down ever since..ALL RELATIONSHIPS are prone to GOOD, BAD and USING, ABUSING, ACCUSING and THEN JUDGING.
SO WHEN WE BROACH THIS SUPREMELY HOT TOPIC..WE WILL NOT USE TRADITIONAL “WELP” PHARISEE MINISTRY APPROACH..AND It may take more than on article on this as it is deeply INFLAMMATORY due to “Sin spying” passed down OT Law human Pharisee traditions and kept alive, now fanned by abusive Pharisees and MEDIA.
THUS… WE PURPOSELY CALL ATTENTION TO A CURRENTLY HOT TOPIC ON THE TV ALL THIS WEEK..so while include this ….assessing fornication.
- AND WHEN is “being led, governed by the inside Holy Spirit” granted the “unmerited, unlimited GRACE of GOD” to simply follow whatever type of desire that the Human Carnal Mind, Body, Will, Emotions choose? AND is faithfilled Big Grace limited to any particular sin repeated any particular number of TIMES?
NOTE: What if, instead of regarding this as “Typical Sin which historically subtly implies /accuses Harlot, Big Fornicator type of Pharisee self righteousness and/or accusing, condemning..Perhaps if we say “God wants to spare YOU heart ache, self slow devaluing, being in any way degraded, by anyother used or YOU not USING (devaluing any other) and besides,while it is YOUR OWN CHOICE and YOUR BODY…still, if YOU made the CHOICE to follow CHRIST, then WHO is the real LORD of YOUR One LIFE?
- ASKING: Can a Professing Born Again Believer completely ignore any Bible verses which do not suit them? President Thomas Jefferson purposely cut out all of the Bible verses that he did not agree with and published his own famous JEFFERSON BIBLE, now on display at University of Virginia ..however, Thomas Jefferson was a deist. SELAH
- HOWEVER, even with that comment...we need to understand that every person has a UNIQUE back ground, past experiences, and some have personal lives filled with repeated sexual molestation, even rape, recurrent abuse, and/or pain.And there is such a real thing as “addictions”…and even more..THEREFORE… we must also use Christian empathy, wisdom and compassion..and ZERO Stone Throwing. YET we at the same time must NOT be PC for we shall each stand alone before the LORD and will be held accountable for what we teach or intentionally back away from…meaning how I regard myself and The Audience of THE MAIN ONE.
- NOTABLY… not all are like Thomas Jefferson…many are massively under taught and also maybe majorly confused. NOTE …PLUS there are gigantic numbers of human persons who have been labeled, declared “WICKED SCARLETT LETTER A …as in A EVIL SINNER” labeled as “BAD” “Going to BURN IN THE FIRES OF HELL” and/or self righteously kicked out of their family for being “the fallen woman OR man”
- I am am not going to be that kind.
- For surely the Universal OT LP, plus TV media and US Big History of Sin Spying, Finger Pointing and Books like Scarlett Letter..plus PHARISEES and HYPOCRITES..(which this person is trying very hard NOT to embody either one) has lent itself to what transpires TODAY. I simply am forming thoughts and submitting them to Christian pastors, minister, and lay. AND AGAIN..it’s not about any OTHER NON CHRISTIAN BELIEF SET.
- POINT: May this SUBMITTED NON SELF RIGHTEOUS SELAH provoke realistic human thought and Noble Berean research. And time spent with GOD seeking His ways in mature prayer.
- WONDERING: WHAT is “grace” and when (what is the TIPPING POINT) when it turns GREASY and LICENTIOUS? We don’t state here, as we really want YOU to study and ponder. There actually appears to be a Tipping Eternal Point… (Proverbs 29:1) “He/she who being often reproved hardens his/her neck, shall suddenly be destroyed and that without measure.”
YET no two persons are identical so God must discern then decide about assessing judgment, making it NO formula and NOT warranting Any Overseer Sin Spying
- THIS IS APOSTLE PAUL COMMUNICATING TO ONLY THE “SAVED JESUS CHRIST ACCEPTERS” but NOT to any other faith, belief set.Note this famous presently debated God named as sin.
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APOSTLE PAUL GALATIANS 5 states the big Christian following:
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“It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. (NOTE: within that newly saved carnal Born Again Big Seacoast Bunch….there was acceptance, or tolerance, of “the most typical type of human fornication” ….Yet Galatian believers also had been found to accept, tolerate even a MAJOR MEGA incest type)
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
- BIG MAIN “KEY WORD” TO NOTE….CHAPTER 5 V 2. heart condition of “puffed up” (spirit of arrogant, all wise pride) …meaning accepting, being hard, callous and ME, SELF utterly CENTRIC…as in they were so wrapped up into pleasing their own SPECIAL SELVES..that they did not give a flying fig about how God viewed it.(as in disrespecting the loving Life Giver, Creator in their RELATIONSHIP much less respecting the wise purpose full commands in His Scriptures)…. Plus also failing to humble each of themselves before the Holy Eternal God, and repenting, turning fully away from.
- “Bible sins of the carnal flesh” READ THIS ENTIRE CHAPTER 5, ROMANS 8 see what you are led by Holy Spirit to realistically think.
THE FOLLOWING APOSTOLIC CHAPTERS ARE CERTAINLY HOT…
CHAPTER 5: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+5&version=KJV
ROMANS 8 (but read entire “there is now no condemnation” chapter) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8&version=KJV
THE CONCEPT: On whatever choice one makes about all of this….shouldn’t each one of us search out these types of Hot Topics and See what’s actually in the NEW TESTAMENT, apart from back Under the OT Law?
ASSESSING: It’s how much GRACE (Assessed as Between The Father God and each individual BELIEVER within the context of their RELATIONSHIP…(and includes shortcomings, weaknesses and “besetting sins” which ONLY GOD can speak to the person about. AND all of this it’s only addressing perceived as “Christian, born again faith true persons” (So all other faiths must decide according to their choice of faith)
PURPOSE MADE PLAIN FOR ANY YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN, JESUS ACCEPTING READER WHO IS UPSET:
Q.WHY POINT THIS OUT?
1) It’s actually in the BIBLE …NOT OT but New Testament not Back Under the Law in any of these Bible passages
2) FOR EVERY PERSONS POSSIBLE GUARANTEE OF ETERNAL SECURITY…MEANING..So that on the Last Day whenever the professing Saved Believer dies and is required to stand ALONE before GOD, surely we want them to fully be ready and not have us be held leader accountable for NOT at least (respectfully, fully, politely WARNING each one of them) I also can submit all of this to all in a submitted Selah, and abiding in Common doctrine of Ephesians 4..and still be NOT PC compromising.
FYI: Google search the topic and only view BIBLE SCRIPTURE apart from COMMENTARY. See what YOU find. PS for an authentic added toe curler: Read 1 Chapter Book of Jude.
YET, with the Tennis Ball of submitted Selah placed into each and everyone’s own personal theological court, then it is THEY, each Unique True Real Person who must peruse, pray, ponder and Noble Berean the Hot Topics in the New Testament..for each of themselves. After all I will not have to stand alone before God to give an answer for them..RATHER, I will have to stand before the Lord alone to answer for MY own Bible and personal, ministry choices..
ATTITUDE and EMPATHY yet being respectfully direct should be regarded as ACCEPTING, LOVING but “REAL EVEN ASSESSING, COMPLETELY TRUE LOVE”
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