NOTE: this was first posted Oct 16, 2019 www.taveaucreativeconsulting.com
FOR THE APOSTOLIC MINISTRY BODY OF CHRIST
ARE WE MASS PRODUCING MINI THROUGH
MEGA POPES…
….BUT NOT MENTIONING ROMAN
CATHOLICISM
” For there is no respect of persons with God.” ROMANS 2:11 KJV
“Then Peter opened his mouth and said: “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality.” E.O.R.R. ACTS 10:34
“MOST OF US ELDER LEADER SEEK A SENSE OF FULFILLMENT, OF WANTING TO FILL UP A BIG VOID THAT A GOOD FATHER, AUTHORITY, OR LIFE NEVER DID, OR FEEL DEEPLY INSECURE AND SHAKY IN OUR ESTEEM. THUS THE TEMPTATION IS TO TRY TO FILL IT USING TITLE, FAME, EGO, SKIN COLOR, BOOK LEARNING, SEEKER BIG GIFT, TALENT, FAMILY, OVERSEER PRIDE AND REGARDING BUSINESS, ACHIEVEMENT AND MAKING MONEY, OWNING MANY POSSESSIONS, EVEN MINISTRY, OTHER ONES, TO FILL THAT VOID.
THE RESULTING COMMENT: JESUS, YOU BE THE SOURCE OF EACH OF OUR, YOURS, MY ESTEEM… FROM TODAY ON OUT”…Dr Taveau D’Arcy Still Schleppin’ Ever Pioneering, none to grande.. Leadership
“It strongly appears that Creator Father, Just God has placed His office seers on both the pulpit stage as well as all over His fellowship congregation. As it is His system of prophetic checks and balances.” Quote from 1996 Taveau D’Arcy Leadership
“But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.” Revelation 2:6**
**GOD hates what people teach, preach, yet He never ever hated any of them” (Taveau Creative (He is merciful) entire area chief servant apostolic) Leadership
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Submitted as a non WE Ego Centric, Non Self Righteous intended servant selah.
AM WONDERING.. was the infamous Revelation “doctrine of the Nicolatians “nico= nike= To have VICTORY OVER..as TO CONTROL with laos= The People) at the root of what Christian ministry is much reproducing today.
NOTE: 8-10 (back then hellish, turbulent) years ago, I remember Google searching “doctrines of the Nicolaitans” after puzzling what I keep seeing over and over since TV Media Christian TV got big. What I recall is that in most places it defined “doctrines of the Nicolaitans “which God says he HATES )..as “the first GNOSTIC (carnal, human false wisdom, first false teaching that every tried to water down the back then Equal Opportunity ALL Accepting, very first Acts 2 House to House Church.
So, it was ONLY ONE finding online which mentioned along in the definition the following but it makes sense …THIS PERSON stated, that the “Doctrines of the Nicolaitans were the first false doctrines to come into the First Church which SEPARATED the 5 fold offices from being amongst the PEOPLE and made them ELEVATED over.. which then (the next are my responding ministry thoughts…
1) made the people out in the audience relax, mentally take off, let the ELEVATED PULPIT OFFICE do all their work,thinking.
2) all the now deemed “little, common” fellowship attending God’s people needed to do was attend, take lots of notes, and to keep checking their watches to be home in time to swing by Wendy’s and make it home in time for the big game.
3) Thus many of God’s people( mentioning: especially REAL MEN) would no longer feel good enough,to Noble Berean, to challenge accepted poor/good leader doctrine as they were now deemed to be the FOLLOWERS, FANS, NO NOTHINGS and LOWLY UNWORTHY PEONS…who mustn’t DARE ever question the top ELEVATED pulpit…for the would be automatically accused of “being unsubmitted to in house (royal) authority and /or maybe of being rebellious or contentious and even then kicked out from the Fine Fellowship for simply questioning something like abusive authority, quiet controlling legalism and/or mishandling of FUNDS, FOLLOWER FEMALES or USING POOR ,WEALTHY ATTENDING FAITHFUL FOLKS (and this non-spy but Holy Spirit observant leader has watched all along).
NOTE YE ALSO (also my own non papal surmisings) And following this controlling, Ye Must Be Submitted To High Exalted All Knowing Ministry Pulpit started,(with clear roots of Big I, Little You, future Fan Club Christian unquestionable Celebrity) Yet in light of all history, it might seem that later Doctrines of the Nicolaitans grew, assimilated (yeast spreads?) it finally took a strong uphold and grew so VERY BIG that it finally removed the HOLY BIBLE from the hands of the common people and made it ONLY available to the exalted, no longer Servant Leader Offices..which then began what is known as the DARK AGES.
NOW I have not, since that long ago online time, been able to find any other commentary which states about the ELEVATED pre celebrity adoring frustrated True Church OR any peer who has on record stated the DARK AGES..etc however..truly and office subjectively submitted, if all appears to make a LOT OF SENSE
WONDERING..SO WHY WOULD GOD SAY “HE HATES
DOCTRINES OF THE NICOLATIANS?”
“To have respect of persons is not good: for for a piece of bread that man will transgress.” Leader Proverbs 28:12 (NOTING how the M word Mammon is often tied directly in with all of this, as well as the following:
Frankly, it’s rooted in a “respecter of persons” anti unity, Preferring ONLY Certain Pet Favored (observing mostly SIMILAR JUST LIKE THEM) few persons. It reproduces In Crowd Out Crowd Ministry, breeds cliques and self preserving all self satisfied, many home family, pet leadership quiet governing apostolic but legalistic, CLANS. And with all of this the MANY “great and many very SMALL Big Religious Ongoing Business Achieving Well Oiled temple System.
Primarily it creates an leader environment where God’s many people are encouraged to come, to sit, to take copious deep notes, but to never once do ORIGINAL REVELATION (this is where I major ministry come from..not meaning how I was extended ministry family, deeply Bible scholar,servant office senior pastor… reared. Each of my rather pithy direct comments stem from regarding, being respectfully and ETERNALLY GRATEFUL for being in the direct midst of many Popular TV Ministry affected, following FINE GIFTED AUTHENTIC LEADER MATURE OFFICES..
So NO meaning any of this as criticism, SEEKING and CRITIQUING, SUBMITTING SELAH not SELF RIGHTEOUS or SELF CENTRIC human ego definite need summising only regarding LOCATING, DISCERNING…BIBLE AUTHENTIC …maybe intermingled with (usually ONLY well intentioned) true/untrue fine points in doctrine.
Makes God’s people blindly accepting, continually human pleasing, being unquestioning, kept dulled way down so as to not make controversy, need to only be perceived as “meek and mild” to be keep easy to ministry control, now the NON famous elevated take off, as they are now longer needed, The High Priest at the Top does all the work.
Making the Leader SOVREIGN, as a Ruler, Big fearsome sometimes accusing leader Boss, can fracture human souls, use, abuse, accuse , ruin lives..
BIG NOT TO BE EVER QUESTIONED HIGH (HE, SHE) OFFICE can keep God’s people stifled, ever open to be used, office overseer implied should do my bidding, with too many ordinary Followers left gullible, non questioning,always prone to be money manipulated, even office owned, possessed and abused…. MALES and TOP FEMALES, all kinds of OTHERS.
So take this as ministry as submitted selah not dogma.
NOW..being open, I also believe that much of the HIGH AND EXALTED ministry contains unholy self serving, into at least SOME of themselves, strongly appearing ARISTOCRATIC ROMAN PATRICHIANISM, which I have deeply repeatedly studied,
SO POSSIBLY it is that which I have deeply always noted rather than NICOLAITANS so simply to make Big Quality Sure I would suggest many of you Google searching EACH.
SIDE VENTURES….To make it easier and convenient
**ROMAN PATRICHIANISM (hedonistic, dominating roots of Elite, Autocratic plus Aristocratic Imperial Power and much Classism, Elder Leader Gender Narcissism , surely more)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrician_(post-Roman_Europe)
**MATURE GREEK DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS QUICK LINK
In Depth Greek Scholar RICK RENNER’S Own Nicolaitans Scholarly explanation; (so even if he does it differently, we’re still offering up all of this for PONDERING, WISDOM EVEN SERVANT APOSTOLIC PUZZLE PIECES
https://renner.org/who-were-nicolaitans-what-was-doctrine-deeds/
NEVER SEEN It birth a crowded, standing room only Big Fellowship..UNLESS…and UNTIL God’s people stopped Bible Noble Berean-ing the leader DOCTRINES…
….then they blindly follow, way to over many needing a Pastor, Prophet, Apostle as “family authority figure”….. but along with that, also too over many strongly appear to nearly GENUFLECT as unto the prophetic sort of apostle POPE under the USA deep ongoing BIG into TV truly effected usally pop worship culture apostolic (pioneering, trying to chief leader work plant)…It been around since the USA slick glossy favorite hyping,happy, repeating the latest INFO (which regularly appears to also include ministry/pastor gossip) ..since I recall it’s inception during the Upscale Madison Avenue “into the power look” business USA propelling times..
IN far too many local office “of Certain Popular TV Media often Mimicking, appearing Leader office Styles..these called as Hebrews 10:15 Houses of fellowship regular fans,I meant, ATTENDERS, as well as the installed family, , the staff, elders…each make mention of the Top Leaders Name without dutifully, many appearing as deemed demanded…paying giving them Big “Accoladen’ Honor…AND THE MAJORITY of which each seem to hang on to every single leader word,even some/very few, over very many… unquestioningly..
..BUT then each servile one goes about doing their very best to hard work, serve and DO,complete with nearly PAPAL appearing (mostly, usually a) His /Fine Her’s Bidding.
AND NOTED THIS FROM THE 1980’S AFTER FIRST FAMOUS TV CHRISTIAN BEGAN APPEARING REGULARLY IN THE COMMON BASIC TV WATCHING USA HOUSEHOLDS
But has greatly elevated and multiplied CHRISTIAN BORN AGAIN, sense. (Note; much good, mixed in with not so)
PS A PLEASANT HUMOR ASIDE:
“In around 1999-2000,I was given a chance to be on 2 area cable TV stations for the then nonprofit 501c3 IFFM..The International Fellowship of Foundational Ministries (Eph 2:19-10) Pioneering leader teaching, equipping, servant apostolic Ministry.
IT was during the period of time when certain TV hosts, TV founders, were well known for their BIG HAIR. And I recall all the ministry, all wise cynical critical, lay, who mocked. I refused to join in, noting
1) most of those well chosen original media pioneers grew up in deep poverty and never owned anything or could dress well. So when they could afford it, they didn’t have a lot of practice in Understated Attire, especially MAKEUP. (both FIRST TV FOUNDER LADIES ..were raised superstrict real pentecostals ..in deep hurting povers… SO MUCH SO that I believe that (possibly) when they discovered Christ’s nonlegalistical FREEDOM,they may made up in the makeup realm…by no prior ROLE MODELS but frankly “making up for all that prior poverty LOST TIME…(just my real thoughts)
2) “God uses the foolish things of this world to confound the worldly wise” I Corinthians..PLUS And I still would include my own personal name, in the that apparent same, misfit category. And..it’s no bother.
SO back in the same time, when I was getting ready to be on area wide local TV, I mentioned it to my teenage beloved daughter. I said, “Your mom is going to be on TV”. To which she replied, “But Mom, you’re hair isn’t TALL ENOUGH to be on TV” …which really made me LAUGH. Blessed hahaha.
AND if I recall rising celebrity,, Amazing Big I’, Little You in Christian Ministry, locally also..it all began with ELEVATED, ELITE (in appearance) TV Big Perks, Talking Famous always revered Well Known Heads, flashy big , great lighting, cameras correctly, and most fashionably suited up. AND many ministers represented as Big Perks, Entourage, and all of the exact similar to Upscale as Hollywood.
YET we know real life and what happened from the former first TV CELEBRITY scandal until nearly now. AND I am NOT ONE BIT OPPOSED to lights, cameras, good style, and business , having traveling helps, big even giant Do Your Bidding Staff..
However, I Corinthians 1, 3 Sent to Church Offices Messenger, Apostle Paul, appeared to warn against Divisive Office CELEBRITY… as in not taking sides saying “I fan club follow and prefer Apostle Paul” where upon another would devotedly counter back with, “well, I much more fan club follow and highly prefer Apostle Apollos” ….And such it deeply real life IS..among the big media clearly always viewing, deep big MINISTRY and LAY grass roots.
AND Many inquiring leader years ago, I was given the Zephaniah scripture “you shall have RENOWN” Renown is area wide, local, national, even global “servant minister wide, acclaim, wide respect, be leader, teacher, writer really well known ,NOTHING is wrong with that. King Solomon, First 12 Apostles, Paul, prophetic King David…each one had RENOWN (today’s word might be “each was FAMOUS”…
Yet if we refer to Apostle Paul (who seemed to distance himself with disgust from ELEVATED OFFICE DIVISION, as would possibly be Christian Ministry ‘Fan club” devout facebook follower high office CELEBRITY.then one must clearly regard HOW and IF and even WHEN this ‘acclaim” lauding, big accustomed giving honor ,showing deference to…actually slips and slides over to FAMOUS NAME WORSHIP (famous Christian dependence, enormously seeming to be devoted, always accepting, appearing to be unquestioning of his ,her doctrines…which can transform into a form of idolatry plus it makes vast legions of “their devout true followers” who are not “Jesus Disciples” but convenient, many overly dependent, Bible super shallow and/or too potentially easily swayed, which may be dangerous (offerings, leadings which may not line up with the core Genuine New Testament, etc )
AND that is primarily WHY this NON CELEBRITY (apostolic Gal 1:1-2) self governing inquiring writer is doing all of this apostolic ongoing Noble Berean work.
AND what bugs this trying to fellowship real ongoing person is THE ALL RELATIONSHIP “FAN CLUB BIG DEVOTED BIG NAME FOLLOWERS who trade on, use their names to say they are OVER many of them, who may quote them continually, many times drop their Bishop, Preacher acclaimed (now most revered up in Hollywood standard of clear Fame..which does not finger point at the TOP mostly HE,but to the Big Grass Roots, who remain absolutely shallow, many MEAN, RUDE, MEAN, ARROGANT and UNLOVING, USER, BIG FELLOWSHIP/ big CONVENTION clearly SELF SEEKING and often grabby, pushy and or downright DIVA hard, mentally tough, BIG USER and/or appear to be THE NEXT FAMOUS….BLESSED GUY/GAL and super shallow…overly FAMOUS GOOD NAME dependent)
And for the sake of JESUS CHRISTS honorable, authentic LIFE, PURPOSE, HIS DEAR OFFICE MINISTERS, I give much of this one apostolic real life to GIVE BACK to help wake up, really SHOCK the many too innocent, clueless never the less “born again office ministers, leader lay” (Need to be “Marked for contention?” ..No, Never, it JUDE big contending for the faith …because JESUS CHRIST GOOD NAME and The HONEST, PURE LIVING, WONDERFUL “True Bible remnant sincere real true born again saints, ARE GETTING SMEARED via all of this..
FOR THE SUPER PC WHO MIGHT NOT BIG UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS…AND SAY,”YOU SOUND TOO MEAN..HARD.. SO THAT MEANS WE CAN WRITE YOU OFF…SINCE YOU’RE NOT SWEET LIKE INFANT JESUS” over too many..So, I hasten to explain…Simply liken this to JESUS with so much ‘zeal for His father’s mixed up unholy Temple House that he made a prophetic act by turning over all those fastidious temple money maker fine tables to SHOCK UP, TO SHAKE THEM UP…plus to WAKE THEM UP OUT OF THEIR LIFE STUPOR
DUE TO CHRISTIAN MIXTURE IN LOCAL MINDS, AFFECTING RELATIONSHIPS, JESUS PURE IDENTIFICATION AND REAL EFFECTIVE AREA WITNESS
..YET there is a giant Celebrity Dependent, NON PERSONALLY BIBLE DOCTRINE INQUIRING mixture, big styling mixed up hodge podge, which this now strongly affects 1) The UNDERSTANDING OF WHO JESUS CHRIST truly was,is 2) WHY did Jesus die, suffer (YES, eternal life but where are “He came to destroy the works of the devil'( I John 3:8 “Overcome the mean accuser “(Rev 11:7-11) “To Holy Spirit guide us into ALL truth” (John 16:13) plus far far (non material possessions seeming to be ONLY) MORE.
ALSO what about all mature, life, family, society, racial, local ministry BOOK OF EPHESIANS One Big Diverse Equal All Truly Respect Non PC COMMUNITY (Common leader doctrines Eph 4, ALL walking in “meekness and lowliness in longsuffering..and each one (leader,grass roots living lay) “endeavoring to keep unity.”
“”MY PASTOR” “THE GOOD BISHOP” “OUR CHIEF APOSTLE” “THE PROPHET”…(mostly a) He can do no wrong” producing a leader worship/Be Ye Born Again utterly dependent, even some into a cult spirit…MINISTRY LAY ASSESSING: actually appears over too many really WANT, if not NEED, simply EXPECT to “Locate THE Local Pastor where I can sit myself down, really unwind, relax and let HIM/ ever HER do all the work. I can just veg and park my spiritual car …and MANY laying it at their Highly Honored, Blessed and Gifted, mostly prophetic xtra small and very very big..Feet.. (RESEMBLES.How in OT Hebrew Days, God’s people “Cried out for God to give them a KING”…
BUT… ANYHOW.. “Narrow hardened made up elder leader, fine tuned, big bright fine inquiring top minds, yet add on enormous eqos with big office titles to overseer match..then exalt one’s pulpit in order to ministry keep tabs on all the ministry, lay others.. NOT SO GOOD..but ACTIVE ALL AROUND Deep Grass Roots South..(we’re unsure about up North).THUS with the idea to MANY MORE POPULATE your tiny micro, minute ministry ..plus mega transform it into a HEALTHY LIVE ONE…we big Up Front, respectfully try to share..as ‘”faithful are the wounds of a (TRUE, BELOVED, LIFE LONG) (ministry , not old fogey) friend.”
And certainly free free to Big ongoing Study (relationship James 3:17 enduring, reproducing just (minus any ACCUSING, long distance SIN SPYING/overseer PHARISEEISM) all of this …and so will I.
Blessing ON YOU.
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